Prof. Hwang,  (Prof. Poucher, please be patient to read the conversation between Prof. Hwang and me)

I definitely DONOT think #8, #9 of Beijing site go to the World Finals is a joke. The top team from Tokyo(combat) ranked only #16 at Beijing site and the top team at Korea ranked #10 in Beijing. The contest should be a game of the majority instead of a game of one person. Before we play a game, we should have rules before the game NOT after the game!!! If we set the rules before the game, we will not complain even if we PKU can't be advanced to the world finals. I am feeling that I am cheated. I definitely CANNOT be happy just because we PKU is recommended to World Finals - that is not we pursue, we are working hard to make the contest a fun and fair game for the students all over the world. We surely don't hope that the contest is manipulated by a small number of persons.

Those Asian countries who complained that too much Chinese teams awarded to the World Finals can work hard to improve themselves just like what we are doing. According to the rules, three sites in China earned 13.7 slots but right now we have only 9 teams recommended to the World Finals. Even we add two more teams from China, we still contribute 2.7 slots for other Asian countries. I don't think they have reason to complain.

At last, the more teams attended, the more good teams are selected - it is a basic statistics problem. If a site has only 3 teams attended, are you going to tell me that the first three teams are all good?

Wenxin Li
Beijing site director

  



  

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ch01" <cjhwang@txstate.edu>
To: "C J Hwang" <cjhwang@txstate.edu>; "li wenxn" <lwx@ailab.pku.edu.cn>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:41 AM
Subject: RE: Recommended Teams for Finals


> Professor Li:
> The Beijing list is already #8.
> It would not make sense to advance a team at a lower rank
> of #9. 
> Tokyo, Dhaka and Manila are occupied by foreign teams at
> the top. The slots used will go up.  The lowest rank being 
> advanced from all sites is #6. In order to get Renmin U from Beijing 
> a chance I have to lower standard of line to #6. It is too low 
> already. I can not advance a team from #9 or #10. It is too low.
> You done a great job. But the next team's rank is too low.
> I had difficulty in stoping at #8. A #9 rank team to Finals
> will be a joke for the world. Your used slots is low because
> all your top teams are competing everywhere. If they just come
> to Beijing, your used slots will be very high.
> My calculation is to show Asia that it not true we have
> too many Chinese teams. There were strong complaints last year for 
> too many Chinese teams. If this upsets you, we can go back next year
> for #1,#2,#3 teams each site. For that formula, ReMin U will not have
> chance. With that formula, PKU may not have chance next year. Hope 
> you understand it.
> You should be happy for what I am doing for PKU and China.
> cj
> 
> >===== Original Message From li wenxn <lwx@ailab.pku.edu.cn> =====
> >Prof. Hwang,
> >
> >I can not understand why only 2.1 out of 4.5 slots are used and only one team 
> advanced to world finals from Beijing. In the meanwhile Dhaka Site (total used 
> slots 2.25 from 1.0), Manila Site (total used slots 2.3 from 1.0), Tokyo Site 
> (total used slots 2.47  from 1.8). It is definitely unfair and almost making 
> joke to us.
> >Are you saying that we shouldn't give such a large contest and should control 
> the contest within 100 teams? Even that way, you should say it before the 
> contest.
> >
> >I just can't help being angry when seeing this file.
> >
> >Wenxin Li
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "C J Hwang" <cjhwang@txstate.edu>
> >To: "- cjHwang-" <cjhwang@txstate.edu>
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 2:12 PM
> >Subject: (&Egrave;&eth;&ETH;&Ccedil;&Igrave;á&Ecirc;&frac34;-&acute;&Euml;&Oacute;&Ecirc;&frac14;&thorn;&iquest;&Eacute;&Auml;&Uuml;&Ecirc;&Ccedil;&Agrave;&not;&raquo;&oslash;&Oacute;&Ecirc;&frac14;&thorn;)Recommended Teams for Finals
> >
> >
> >> The attached file includes the recommended teams for World Finals
> >> with my explanation. Please read the attached file.
> >> cj Hwang
> >>
> 
> 

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